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	<title>Comments on: When Should You Draw Your NFL Pension?</title>
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		<title>By: jeff van note</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2008/09/19/when-should-you-draw-your-nfl-pension/comment-page-1/#comment-38338</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff van note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pop up clause can also apply to players who get divorced and the wife signs a Quadro in the divorce; giving up all rights to a players pension.There have been 2 or 3 cases where this has been enacted in the past year. I believe the player would then be given a life only pension amount, increasing his pension .Evidence of a Quadro must be presented and the ex-wife needs to sign a statement of that fact. If you know of any ex-players in this situation, contact the Bert Bell in Baltimore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pop up clause can also apply to players who get divorced and the wife signs a Quadro in the divorce; giving up all rights to a players pension.There have been 2 or 3 cases where this has been enacted in the past year. I believe the player would then be given a life only pension amount, increasing his pension .Evidence of a Quadro must be presented and the ex-wife needs to sign a statement of that fact. If you know of any ex-players in this situation, contact the Bert Bell in Baltimore.</p>
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		<title>By: Fumbles &#171; From Pine View Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fumbles &#171; From Pine View Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Little was one of the lucky ones, at least in football terms&#8211;a big star with a long career and many honors. The average pro football career is less than four years and the retirement benefits are surprisingly miserly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Little was one of the lucky ones, at least in football terms&#8211;a big star with a long career and many honors. The average pro football career is less than four years and the retirement benefits are surprisingly miserly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RetiredPlayers.Org</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2008/09/19/when-should-you-draw-your-nfl-pension/comment-page-1/#comment-24702</link>
		<dc:creator>RetiredPlayers.Org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions regarding spousal rights to benefits should be directed to the NFL Player Benefits Office. Their number is (800) 638-3186.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions regarding spousal rights to benefits should be directed to the NFL Player Benefits Office. Their number is (800) 638-3186.</p>
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		<title>By: Not a deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2008/09/19/when-should-you-draw-your-nfl-pension/comment-page-1/#comment-24697</link>
		<dc:creator>Not a deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the mother of my child make me take my pension before I want to because of child support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the mother of my child make me take my pension before I want to because of child support?</p>
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		<title>By: MyTenSense.com &#124; Blog &#124; NFL pension and benefits are pathetic, players don&#39;t have it made</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2008/09/19/when-should-you-draw-your-nfl-pension/comment-page-1/#comment-24410</link>
		<dc:creator>MyTenSense.com &#124; Blog &#124; NFL pension and benefits are pathetic, players don&#39;t have it made</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 05:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there&#8217;s the poverty level pension for retired NFL players. Players are fully vested after three years in the league. Once they retire, they can begin [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there&#8217;s the poverty level pension for retired NFL players. Players are fully vested after three years in the league. Once they retire, they can begin [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luther Ellis files for bankruptcy... - MotownSports.com Message Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther Ellis files for bankruptcy... - MotownSports.com Message Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 03:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] soon.    Your figures are way, way off. Also, he can&#039;t start drawing his pension until he&#039;s 55.   When Should You Draw Your NFL Pension? &#124; RetiredPlayers.Org     __________________ I am Jack&#039;s complete lack of surprise.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] soon.    Your figures are way, way off. Also, he can&#8217;t start drawing his pension until he&#8217;s 55.   When Should You Draw Your NFL Pension? | RetiredPlayers.Org     __________________ I am Jack&#8217;s complete lack of surprise.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played with the Jets from 1964-1967. We were only given $ 200.00 per month for years played. 200x4= $800.00  the $250 formula would have helped us a little. I took my retirement at 62.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played with the Jets from 1964-1967. We were only given $ 200.00 per month for years played. 200&#215;4= $800.00  the $250 formula would have helped us a little. I took my retirement at 62.</p>
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		<title>By: George Visger</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Visger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 05:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a dues paying NFL Alumni since I was drafted in the 6th round by the NY Jets in 1980 and played briefly with Wesley Walker, before being cut at the end of preseason.  It breaks my hear to hear of his struggles.  After the Jets released me I was picked up by the S.F. 49ers the 3rd game of 1980 and   suffered the last of many concussions the first play I played with the 49ers “vs” Dallas.  Finished the season and came back in 1981.  Suffered a knee surgery (2 more on it since, including 2 stainless steel molly bolts and a Gore Tex ACL) and had the first of my 9 brain surgeries several weeks into the 1981 season after my knee surgery.  Underwent emergency brain surgery @ Stanford Hospital in Sept of 1981 during our first Super Bowl Championship season, where they installed a VP Shunt in my brain to drain spinal fluid into my abdomen.  Have subsequently had 7 (or 8, lost track) VP shunt revisions.  I go into a coma when ever the shunt fails, and I also developed grand mal seizures from my brain surgeries.  I am currently on 150 mg of Phenobarbital/day for seizures and 20 mg of Lexapro/day for memory issues.  

I am now 50 yrs old, and of course having major short term memory problems among a host of other problems (fractured C6 &amp; C7 vertebrae in neck, fractured S8 in back, arthritic lf knee).  I was force to sue the 49 er&#039;s for Workers Compensation to get 2 more brain surgeries I had May of 1982 after we won the Super Bowl paid for, as they stated I was never injured playing for them.  Settled my WC case in 1986, and returned to school to finish my Biology degree in 1990 after 4 more brain surgeries and 2 grand mal seizures in one 10 month period while I was running my own General Contracting business and finishing up my Bio degree. 

I contacted the NFL Players Association in 1981 for help and again last week.  Both times I was turned away (this last time because I only had 2 credited seasons and am not vested)   I have always done whatever it takes to get things done, but am having serious short term memory and anger management problems.  I have a wife (who teaches and will be losing her job in May due to California budget cuts) and 3 children ages 9 – 17.  

I am approaching you for information on where I (we, ex players) can get help (with my memory, anger problems) so I can continue to take care of my family.  
I would greatly appreciate any information you have which may help me in this dire situation.

Thank you,

George Visger
Principal Wildlife Biologist
Visger &amp; Associates Environmental Consulting
12865 Ridge Road
Grass Valley, CA 95945
O  (530) 272-4834
C  (916) 812-2257
george.visger@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a dues paying NFL Alumni since I was drafted in the 6th round by the NY Jets in 1980 and played briefly with Wesley Walker, before being cut at the end of preseason.  It breaks my hear to hear of his struggles.  After the Jets released me I was picked up by the S.F. 49ers the 3rd game of 1980 and   suffered the last of many concussions the first play I played with the 49ers “vs” Dallas.  Finished the season and came back in 1981.  Suffered a knee surgery (2 more on it since, including 2 stainless steel molly bolts and a Gore Tex ACL) and had the first of my 9 brain surgeries several weeks into the 1981 season after my knee surgery.  Underwent emergency brain surgery @ Stanford Hospital in Sept of 1981 during our first Super Bowl Championship season, where they installed a VP Shunt in my brain to drain spinal fluid into my abdomen.  Have subsequently had 7 (or 8, lost track) VP shunt revisions.  I go into a coma when ever the shunt fails, and I also developed grand mal seizures from my brain surgeries.  I am currently on 150 mg of Phenobarbital/day for seizures and 20 mg of Lexapro/day for memory issues.  </p>
<p>I am now 50 yrs old, and of course having major short term memory problems among a host of other problems (fractured C6 &amp; C7 vertebrae in neck, fractured S8 in back, arthritic lf knee).  I was force to sue the 49 er&#8217;s for Workers Compensation to get 2 more brain surgeries I had May of 1982 after we won the Super Bowl paid for, as they stated I was never injured playing for them.  Settled my WC case in 1986, and returned to school to finish my Biology degree in 1990 after 4 more brain surgeries and 2 grand mal seizures in one 10 month period while I was running my own General Contracting business and finishing up my Bio degree. </p>
<p>I contacted the NFL Players Association in 1981 for help and again last week.  Both times I was turned away (this last time because I only had 2 credited seasons and am not vested)   I have always done whatever it takes to get things done, but am having serious short term memory and anger management problems.  I have a wife (who teaches and will be losing her job in May due to California budget cuts) and 3 children ages 9 – 17.  </p>
<p>I am approaching you for information on where I (we, ex players) can get help (with my memory, anger problems) so I can continue to take care of my family.<br />
I would greatly appreciate any information you have which may help me in this dire situation.</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>George Visger<br />
Principal Wildlife Biologist<br />
Visger &amp; Associates Environmental Consulting<br />
12865 Ridge Road<br />
Grass Valley, CA 95945<br />
O  (530) 272-4834<br />
C  (916) 812-2257<br />
<a href="mailto:george.visger@gmail.com">george.visger@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: samaji  akili</title>
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		<dc:creator>samaji  akili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a paying member of the NFLPA players association. the annual dues is $100.00 per year. MY question is why is there no support from the union, for players  of  the 70`s who are short one ,two or three games because of political reasons,who should be vested.-------Samaji    Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a paying member of the NFLPA players association. the annual dues is $100.00 per year. MY question is why is there no support from the union, for players  of  the 70`s who are short one ,two or three games because of political reasons,who should be vested.&#8212;&#8212;-Samaji    Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: John Hogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent information on retirement benefits.  I just wanted to remind retired players that under current Plan rules, if they take their retirement, they cannot subsequently file for disability.  (The recent Alliance &quot;window&quot; was a one-time exception to that rule.)  This is one of many provisions of the plan that we need to have changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent information on retirement benefits.  I just wanted to remind retired players that under current Plan rules, if they take their retirement, they cannot subsequently file for disability.  (The recent Alliance &#8220;window&#8221; was a one-time exception to that rule.)  This is one of many provisions of the plan that we need to have changed.</p>
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