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	<title>Comments on: Is the NFLPA Retired Players Department Relevant?</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Harris</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2009/03/05/is-the-nflpa-retired-players-department-relevant/comment-page-1/#comment-16332</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently spoke to my ex NFL coach, O.A. Bum Phillips.  He is aware of my mistreatment and the mistreatment of all the retired players, by the NFL Players Union and its weapon, the Bert Bell Pension Act.  I played and traveled with my team, the Houston Oilers, for a good 5 years, and more and yet receive no pension and have never been given credit for all the years I dedicated to my team and league.  

I have been active with the NFLPA, in a limited capacity, off and on, for some 10 years, because of its lack of interest in my pension and benefit relationship with that organization.  I want to be more involved, but I like so many other retired players, I feel like we are just left out in the cold, like some unclaimed orphan.

The NFL Retired Players group has helped me and my family, when we needed a few thousand dollars, for family emergencies.  I have also been denied emergency help from that same group, so I know that there are those in the NFLPA who understand what retired players are going through every day, but I also know that there are those within the NFLPA who have no idea of the kind of life that some of us retired players go through, with our families in tow, every day.  

In that same and sometimes desperate and painful life, we retired players also have to try and live as a reminder to that great game, its players and its great fans that once knew us as prideful and honorable heroes.   

I am hopeful that players, like me will, some day, belong to a fair and just players association with a fair and just pension plan.  I am hopeful that all NFL players who once wore their teams jerseys in pride and worked hard for their team and for their league, will, some day, be considered a valuable part of this great group of heroes.  

This situation is difficult for the retired players and for their wives and families.  

I have been outspoken about my opinion of the relationship between retired players and active players.  I am certain that active players would like to have us retired players representing them, out in the communities, in the good and positive light that they deserve, while they continue their warrior responsibilities on the playing field.  

We can work together as true brothers and as true teammates.  As a complete whole, the NFL and the NFLPA have the potential to move social and economic mountains for the great communities that we represent.  If we remain separated, we will never be able to fully serve our communities the way we were meant to.  Let us all come together, as one.  Let us all treat each other as brothers and teammates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently spoke to my ex NFL coach, O.A. Bum Phillips.  He is aware of my mistreatment and the mistreatment of all the retired players, by the NFL Players Union and its weapon, the Bert Bell Pension Act.  I played and traveled with my team, the Houston Oilers, for a good 5 years, and more and yet receive no pension and have never been given credit for all the years I dedicated to my team and league.  </p>
<p>I have been active with the NFLPA, in a limited capacity, off and on, for some 10 years, because of its lack of interest in my pension and benefit relationship with that organization.  I want to be more involved, but I like so many other retired players, I feel like we are just left out in the cold, like some unclaimed orphan.</p>
<p>The NFL Retired Players group has helped me and my family, when we needed a few thousand dollars, for family emergencies.  I have also been denied emergency help from that same group, so I know that there are those in the NFLPA who understand what retired players are going through every day, but I also know that there are those within the NFLPA who have no idea of the kind of life that some of us retired players go through, with our families in tow, every day.  </p>
<p>In that same and sometimes desperate and painful life, we retired players also have to try and live as a reminder to that great game, its players and its great fans that once knew us as prideful and honorable heroes.   </p>
<p>I am hopeful that players, like me will, some day, belong to a fair and just players association with a fair and just pension plan.  I am hopeful that all NFL players who once wore their teams jerseys in pride and worked hard for their team and for their league, will, some day, be considered a valuable part of this great group of heroes.  </p>
<p>This situation is difficult for the retired players and for their wives and families.  </p>
<p>I have been outspoken about my opinion of the relationship between retired players and active players.  I am certain that active players would like to have us retired players representing them, out in the communities, in the good and positive light that they deserve, while they continue their warrior responsibilities on the playing field.  </p>
<p>We can work together as true brothers and as true teammates.  As a complete whole, the NFL and the NFLPA have the potential to move social and economic mountains for the great communities that we represent.  If we remain separated, we will never be able to fully serve our communities the way we were meant to.  Let us all come together, as one.  Let us all treat each other as brothers and teammates.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoinette Wilson</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2009/03/05/is-the-nflpa-retired-players-department-relevant/comment-page-1/#comment-7705</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoinette Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the NFLPA Retired Players Department is a relevant component of services provide to former NFL players.  Having said this, like the Director of Player Development Department, the NFLPA and NFL need to get serious about the qualifications of the individuals put in these positions.  

Having been a player is important and brings relevency to the table, but being a former player without credentials is something else.  Most of the people in those positions do not have the credentials to do the tasks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the NFLPA Retired Players Department is a relevant component of services provide to former NFL players.  Having said this, like the Director of Player Development Department, the NFLPA and NFL need to get serious about the qualifications of the individuals put in these positions.  </p>
<p>Having been a player is important and brings relevency to the table, but being a former player without credentials is something else.  Most of the people in those positions do not have the credentials to do the tasks.</p>
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		<title>By: Cracking the Top 10 Reasons &#171; Fourth and Goal Foundation</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2009/03/05/is-the-nflpa-retired-players-department-relevant/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Cracking the Top 10 Reasons &#171; Fourth and Goal Foundation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;re back and we&#8217;re ready to bring you more &#8220;Reasons We Do What We Do&#8221; for retired players as we countdown the days before the NFLPA Meetings in Hawaii. With only 10 days to go, our #10 Reason &#8220;We Do What We Do&#8221; is No Representation. When it comes to the NFLPA&#8217;s treatment of retired players we&#8217;re always left with more questions than answers. However, there is one question that needs to be answered sooner rather than later and our good friends RetiredPlayers.org posed it an article published yesterday. You can read the entire article HERE. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;re back and we&#8217;re ready to bring you more &#8220;Reasons We Do What We Do&#8221; for retired players as we countdown the days before the NFLPA Meetings in Hawaii. With only 10 days to go, our #10 Reason &#8220;We Do What We Do&#8221; is No Representation. When it comes to the NFLPA&#8217;s treatment of retired players we&#8217;re always left with more questions than answers. However, there is one question that needs to be answered sooner rather than later and our good friends RetiredPlayers.org posed it an article published yesterday. You can read the entire article HERE. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Pear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jean Fugett,

As an officer of the court (attorney) have you ever complained about the problems with the NFL disability system? 

Sincerely,

Dave Pear
NFL 1975- 80
Social Security Disability</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jean Fugett,</p>
<p>As an officer of the court (attorney) have you ever complained about the problems with the NFL disability system? </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dave Pear<br />
NFL 1975- 80<br />
Social Security Disability</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Hand</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2009/03/05/is-the-nflpa-retired-players-department-relevant/comment-page-1/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel very concerned about all I hear coming from of both Current and Retired NFL Players. Likewise from all the people jocking to take over the leadersip of the NFL Players Association. Both current and former NFL Players have alot of issues to address which they haven&#039;t. Life sometimes can be the best Teacher. Example Dad is retiring says Son it&#039;s time for you to run the farm. Now dad only paid $ 10,000 for the farm which is now worth $ 10,000,000 so Son says I need help and decides he needs an attorney ( which by the way probably came to the Son and told him all the great things he was going to do for him ). The attorney now tells the Son it&#039;s your farm forget about Dad, Mom your brothers and sisters because without you there wouldn&#039;t be any Farm. It would be nice if Current and Retired Players could come together and discuss common goals and do what&#039;s right and not give in to alot of self-serving outsiders who are making both Current and Retired players looking like the Village Idiot&#039;s. Remember Son just remember your getting close to retiring and that attorney is not going to be on your side of the table!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel very concerned about all I hear coming from of both Current and Retired NFL Players. Likewise from all the people jocking to take over the leadersip of the NFL Players Association. Both current and former NFL Players have alot of issues to address which they haven&#8217;t. Life sometimes can be the best Teacher. Example Dad is retiring says Son it&#8217;s time for you to run the farm. Now dad only paid $ 10,000 for the farm which is now worth $ 10,000,000 so Son says I need help and decides he needs an attorney ( which by the way probably came to the Son and told him all the great things he was going to do for him ). The attorney now tells the Son it&#8217;s your farm forget about Dad, Mom your brothers and sisters because without you there wouldn&#8217;t be any Farm. It would be nice if Current and Retired Players could come together and discuss common goals and do what&#8217;s right and not give in to alot of self-serving outsiders who are making both Current and Retired players looking like the Village Idiot&#8217;s. Remember Son just remember your getting close to retiring and that attorney is not going to be on your side of the table!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Ward</title>
		<link>http://retiredplayers.org/2009/03/05/is-the-nflpa-retired-players-department-relevant/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you all need to get someone on the NFL PA to actively lobby for a few key changes in the nfl disability plan: 

(1) redact the reservation of discretion in Section 8.2 because this will dramatically help players litigate their disability claim on a 50/50 playing field; 

(2) redact or revise the exclusion provision in Section 5.1 that prevents players from electing early retirement and then filing for disability;

(3) revise the claim procedures to limit the ability to doctor shop... for example, the current claim procedures allow the nfl player benefit office the opportunity to send former players applying for disability out to three (3) medical examinations in hopes of finding one doctor that does not support the disability application.

note - because of the reservation of discretion mentioned in (1) above, when one physician says the disability applicant can work as a security monitor or telemarketer, the possibility of winning the claim in court is seriously diminished.

(4) get a better definition of benevolent employment as it is discussed in Section 5.2.

note - if a former player is still working in almost any capacity and applies for nfl disability, then that player gets denied because he is employed.  because the nfl system can take almost a year to complete from application, to three (3) nfl medical exams, to a final decision, the applicant must be out of work and without any means of financial support during this process...  that creates a very harsh situation for many applicants.

best regards-
kurt ward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you all need to get someone on the NFL PA to actively lobby for a few key changes in the nfl disability plan: </p>
<p>(1) redact the reservation of discretion in Section 8.2 because this will dramatically help players litigate their disability claim on a 50/50 playing field; </p>
<p>(2) redact or revise the exclusion provision in Section 5.1 that prevents players from electing early retirement and then filing for disability;</p>
<p>(3) revise the claim procedures to limit the ability to doctor shop&#8230; for example, the current claim procedures allow the nfl player benefit office the opportunity to send former players applying for disability out to three (3) medical examinations in hopes of finding one doctor that does not support the disability application.</p>
<p>note &#8211; because of the reservation of discretion mentioned in (1) above, when one physician says the disability applicant can work as a security monitor or telemarketer, the possibility of winning the claim in court is seriously diminished.</p>
<p>(4) get a better definition of benevolent employment as it is discussed in Section 5.2.</p>
<p>note &#8211; if a former player is still working in almost any capacity and applies for nfl disability, then that player gets denied because he is employed.  because the nfl system can take almost a year to complete from application, to three (3) nfl medical exams, to a final decision, the applicant must be out of work and without any means of financial support during this process&#8230;  that creates a very harsh situation for many applicants.</p>
<p>best regards-<br />
kurt ward</p>
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